[nylug-talk] Broadband withIP addresses

[Ron Guerin]

Joshua Zeidner wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 11:24 AM, Ron Guerin <ron at vnetworx.net> wrote:
>> Joshua Zeidner wrote:
>>  > On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 8:10 AM, Ron Guerin <ron at vnetworx.net> wrote:
>>  >> Joshua Zeidner wrote:
>>  >>
>>  >>  >   one last word for me :  this is an extremely important issue, and if
>>  >>  > people like NYLUG-ers aren't talking about it, who will?
>>  >>
>>  >>  It's a reasonable question coming from you because you're "new" here.  I
>>  >>  was tempted to say a few things myself, but we've been over this before,
>>  >>   it's going to get ugly, and it's going to piss off the people on
>>  >>  *this* list.
>>  >>
>>  >>  Channeling Peter (forgive me Peter), nobody's positions are going to be
>>  >>  moved a half inch by beating this dead horse some more.
>>  >>
>>  >
>>  >   I disagree.  If you show FACTS instead of 'BUSH SUX', people change
>>  > their opinion.  I'm seeing a lot of misinformation on this topic.
>>  > What else is new?
>>
>>  I'd love to be proved wrong, but you're up against three things here:
>>
>>   1) People and positions who go way back with each other.
>>
>>   2) Each side of the debate considers the other soft (either in the
>>      spine or the brain or both).
>>
>>   3) This is leaning heavily toward social matters rather than tech.
>>
> 
>   "You must be a stupid engineer then, because politcs and technology
> have been attached at the hip since the 1st dynasty in Ancient Egypt.
> I guess you missed that one."  -Ruben Safir
> 
>   Ron, no offense to you, just thought that would be a funny quote.

No offense taken, just so you don't get the wrong idea, you might want 
to skim over a few pages about us.

* New York Public Library demonstration to free Dmitry Sklyarov
   http://www.nylug.org/pictures/index.shtml?owner.dmca2001protest.set1

* United States Courthouse demonstration at the trial MPAA vs 2600
   http://www.nylug.org/pictures/index.shtml?owner.nycdvdcourt

   http://nylug.org/articles/index.shtml?nycdvdcourt

* NYLUG, DCLUG, and NOVALUG protest the DMCA at the Library of Congress
   http://www.nylug.org/pictures/index.shtml?bazza.dmca2000protest

   http://zgp.org/pipermail/linux-elitists/2000-May/000368.html

   http://nylug.org/articles/index.shtml?washdvdprotest

Again, these things have been beat to death here.  (It's all in our 
archives, uncensored in all its glory)  Feel free to tell us about it if 
you and Ruben have some kind of breakthrough over on the other list.

- Ron