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[Ruben Safir]

> 
>    With oversight it makes sense to allow wiretaps; without any oversight 
> whatsoever it's ripe for being abused.  I don't hear anybody trying to stop 
> wiretaps altogether -- most just want some kind of due process.  

Oversite and due process are entirely different concepts.  I don't want
the military to have to go to court to get a warrent before tapping
the lines looking for targets.

But oversite and transparent reporting to both the executive and the
legistlative branches are important, as would any war plan or effort.

> My 
> understanding is that following due process allows for wiretapping for up to 
> three days prior to getting a FISA order; and FISA orders to date have been a 
> rubber-stamp and none has been denied.  The White House's claim that they 
> need the ability to have wonton wiretaps with no oversight or even records 
> (which are kept as secret) is contrary to common sense.
> 

The White House IS the proper place for oversite.


> > C) - What they would do with any information they get from me seriously
> > would worry me if it was being used inapropriately, especially for
> > someone's private gain.
> 
>    Homeland Security's plan to integrate all of the various databases together 
> increases the risk of a data leak.  There have been plenty of stories of data 
> leaks in various companies and agencies, and Homeland Security has had 
> several security checkups and routinely get a grade "D" or below.
>

That issue must be fleshed out in a reasonable way without histerics.  While
they working on that, I wish they'd also scrutenize banks and the MTA better.

It might make a alot more GNU/Linux jobs if such a process occurs.
 
> > D) - The current debate has been over wiretaps of international calls
> > THROUGH US systems, which really makes sense to me since SO MUCH of the
> > internation phone traffic goes through the US.  I don't see why the
> > government should need to put a wiretap in Islamabad if the traffic is
> > going through a US controlled satelite.
> 
>    From what I've read, the NSA have some extremely smart people.  You can 
> absolutely guarantee that there's a whole lot more going on concerning the 
> wiretaps than we know about.  

I'd hope so and excpect it.

> Nobody builds a system that gleans as much data 
> as they can without some infrastructure for automated processing.

even better.

> 
> > E) - I'm worried that they are wasting resources using too large of a "net"
> > Someone has to go through all those communications.  They'd need to be
> > targeted better than the NSA did during the Vietnam era when they just cast
> > a larger and larger net without cause and wasting millions of dollars.
> 
>    I think about a year ago I read a story about how we now have an 
> *increased* risk of missing data because intelligence gathering operations 
> are too busy searching all of the false positives.  

That is a serious serious oversite issue and if I'm in congress I'm spending
a lot of time hashing out the details of this.

> So it's clear that yeah, 
> they're using too much of a net, or at least they were a year ago.

7 years without a significant attack on NYC was unfathomable to me
on 9-12-01

My wife evaculated NYC with the kids in fear.

I'm just putting that out there so that it can foster understanding
between differing view points.


Ruben
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"> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, politics be damned.<
You must be a stupid engineer then, because politcs and technology have been attached at the hip since the 1st dynasty in Ancient Egypt.  I guess you missed that one."

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