[nylug-talk] [OT] Broadband withIP addresses

[Henning Follmann]

On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 08:46:22PM -0500, Ruben Safir wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 04:54:00PM -0500, Lee Revell wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 4:50 PM,  <iluvspam at zionic.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >  On Thu, February 21, 2008 3:35 pm, Joshua Zeidner wrote:
> > >  >   "Anyone who trades liberty for security deserves neither liberty nor
> > >  > security."
> > >  >
> > >  >    -Benjamin Franklin
> > >
> > >
> > >  That's not likely an actual Franklin quote[1], but even if it were how
> > >  would it jibe with the fact that Franklin authorized the opening and
> > >  reading of British mail during the Revolutionary war[2]?
> > 
> > No one is seriously arguing that we shouldn't spy on foreign enemies,
> > that's just right wing rhetoric.
> > 
> > Spying on AMERICANS is what real patriots can't abide.
> > 
> 
> 
> Swipe your citizen ID on the phone before making a call.
> 
> Seriously, I don't care who their spying on if it will stop a military attach
> by a know threat on the City of New York.  NY Buisinesses bet billions of 
> dollars that this city in the future will be nuked and had moved almost
> all the criticle infrastructure out of the city, while drying up a good chunk
> of the IT economy at the same time.
> 
> Consider that when discussing this rather than throwing around hot button
> phases like "real patriots".
> 
> 
I think we are drifting off topic here. Maybe it is better to stop this
discussion here, to avoid a heated debate.

Just a suggestion.

Henning



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