[nylug-talk] Broadband withIP addresses

[Ruben Safir]

On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 04:54:00PM -0500, Lee Revell wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 4:50 PM,  <iluvspam at zionic.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >  On Thu, February 21, 2008 3:35 pm, Joshua Zeidner wrote:
> >  >   "Anyone who trades liberty for security deserves neither liberty nor
> >  > security."
> >  >
> >  >    -Benjamin Franklin
> >
> >
> >  That's not likely an actual Franklin quote[1], but even if it were how
> >  would it jibe with the fact that Franklin authorized the opening and
> >  reading of British mail during the Revolutionary war[2]?
> 
> No one is seriously arguing that we shouldn't spy on foreign enemies,
> that's just right wing rhetoric.
> 
> Spying on AMERICANS is what real patriots can't abide.
> 


Swipe your citizen ID on the phone before making a call.

Seriously, I don't care who their spying on if it will stop a military attach
by a know threat on the City of New York.  NY Buisinesses bet billions of 
dollars that this city in the future will be nuked and had moved almost
all the criticle infrastructure out of the city, while drying up a good chunk
of the IT economy at the same time.

Consider that when discussing this rather than throwing around hot button
phases like "real patriots".


Ruben

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"> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, politics be damned.<
You must be a stupid engineer then, because politcs and technology have been attached at the hip since the 1st dynasty in Ancient Egypt.  I guess you missed that one."

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