[nylug-talk] Broadband withIP addresses

[Ruben Safir]

On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 01:46:42PM -0700, Joshua Zeidner wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Ruben Safir <ruben at mrbrklyn.com> wrote:
> 
> >  thanks.  The only problem here is that I'd rather choke on a chicken
> >  bone and die than use Verizon..
> >
> >  those SOB's have been choking off the NYC economy for more than a decade
> >  with their refusal to open up OUR infrastructure.  First they install
> >  fiber everywhere, and then they refuse to sell the bandwidth.  Then
> >  they get this crackpot idea to rip up all the fiber and sell DSL.
> 
>   A few years ago I had a run in on a public list with a ex-radio show
> host who had been presumably employed by Verizon to argue against
> municipal networking.  I would link into it, but it requires joining
> the AZIPA yahoo group.  The tact and guile of this character was
> utterly astounding.  Verizon is close kin to At&t, 

AT&T was at least a regulated utility and recoknozined as such.

Verizon takes all the money and assets of the public and then fiegns
being a private interest only, and we allow them to operate that way.

> "mother of all
> telecoms", and I would suspect is in on the whole surveillance thing.
>

They can survail me all they what if it means I won't be nuked.  
What is ticking me off is that they won't release the network or
the fiber.

 
>   And keep in mind, they didn't just build the fiber on their own
> coin.  They did it with yours!  kinda gives you that warm and fuzzy
> feeling doesn't it?
> 
>   I've noticed your spelling is much more conformist these days... did
> you install a spell checker? ;)



entirely coincidence.  spell checkers are for conformists.

Ruben
> 
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"> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, politics be damned.<
You must be a stupid engineer then, because politcs and technology have been attached at the hip since the 1st dynasty in Ancient Egypt.  I guess you missed that one."

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