[nylug-talk] Trend Micro sues Barracuda over ClamAV

Ron Guerin ron at vnetworx.net
Fri Feb 1 20:34:48 EST 2008


Peter C. Norton wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 01, 2008 at 11:46:58AM -0500, Ron Guerin wrote:
>> Gregg Levine wrote:
>>> On Feb 1, 2008 10:49 AM, Ron Guerin <ron at vnetworx.net> wrote:
>>>> Ajai Khattri wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 31 Jan 2008, [utf-8] Zach Stern wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> So therefore, if you were in IT (you may be, I have no idea),
>>>>> Sure, I was in IT, probably long before you (hell, I was probably
>>>>> programming before your parents even met :-)
>>>>> I also believe that as more people are exposed to alternatives from home
>>>>> or college, that alternative IT setups will become more common. We're
>>>>> already seeing it happen.
>>>> I'm older than both of you, so I'm more inclined to use a circular word
>>>> like *cycle*.  I remember the IT world before Microsoft destroyed
>>>> competition and innovation, so what I see in the pipe now looks more
>>>> like a return to a better past than a new uncharted future.
>>>>
>>>> And now I pass this off to someone older than me.
>>> How much older do you want Ron? I've been programming, and building
>>> computer related hardware for the past twenty or so years. (Apple 2+
>>> and Apple 2e, and then the PC. Probably the only individual left who
>>> can tell you why an annoyed Apple beeps and displays his registers
>>> when angry.)
>> Probably a bit older than you then.  I wrote my first code about 26 
>> years ago.
> 
> Does that include something more complex than
> 
> 10 PRINT "Boo!"
> 20 GOTO 10
> 
> or 
> 
> pen up
> forward 100 
> pen down 
> right 45
> forward 20
> 
> :)

Actually, it was either FORTRAN IV or IBM 360 Assembler, I honestly
can't remember.  I tossed all my punch cards and printouts several moves
ago, so I can't even look it up.  Best guess though is that it was
FORTRAN first.  As to what it did?  That depends on where I was in the
Shelley-Cashman books when I got my hands on the iron.

- Ron



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