[nylug-talk] equipment available

[Bob Kryger]

Agreed, agreed with gusto.

I really hate that PCs are so KVM centric, it is so very limiting. Even 
with todays 'modern' BIOS redirecting consoles to the tty is so poorly 
implemented (in some cases anyway). A capture of the serial console is a 
superior way to manage a system. In PCs it's not more than an after 
thought. Imagine being able to configure a system BIOS with a simple 
command line, not one of these annoying menu systems, or even the 
'web-config' or some such garbage that you find in the mega-raid cards.

Add to your list of benefits, the Lights-Out-Management (LOM). While LOM 
is not available on these older desktop systems, it is a great advantage 
to Sun server systems. With LOM you can power a system on and off via 
the serial console. There are additional features of LOM as well, such 
as reset, logs and system identification. No need for special add-in 
cards or power strips (PDUs) and you get complete control of a system.

Can you tell that this struck a chord in me?

Sorry for the rant.
bob

Peter C. Norton wrote:
> The best part of them is the openboot PROMs and the serial
> console. Anyone who's only used PC unix will have a good learning
> experience with these.
>
> -Peter
>
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 01:56:20PM -0400, Bob Kryger wrote:
>   
>> That is true, they are quite old. And I have wiped all the disks (DBAN 
>> to the rescue) so there is no OS on them. You'll have to find whatever 
>> is appropriate for you needs.
>>
>> I just hate tossing systems, they could still be useful in some way, 
>> right? I often redeploy old systems for various functions.  I guess that 
>> is just the pack-rat in me.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> Peter C. Norton wrote:
>>     
>>> For the OS, you're way better off using nexenta and an x86
>>> system. These are all slow as dogs, and the hardware is not
>>> particularly supported anymore.
>>>
>>> -Peter
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 01:27:30PM -0400, Mark Halegua wrote:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> I'm interested in one as well.  I want to learn the system ins and outs, and 
>>>> get a little experience with the OS.
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>> On Friday 11 April 2008 11:40, Bob Kryger wrote:
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> I am about to toss out a number of old Sun systems. Ultra5s Ultra 10s
>>>>> Ultra2s and Blade 100s. Anybody interested? As is, come and get 'em.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob
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