[nylug-talk] [SPAM warning] I found a cool hosting facility <$10/month gives you 500GB Online storage.
Daniel Son
dsong at meta-for.org
Thu Oct 25 09:38:22 EDT 2007
Clark,
It's been a while ago, and I don't have the information anymore. I would
recommend you to to use "Virtual Private Server hosting" as a search
phrase in google. For some reason it doesn't find the one I use, at
least on the first pages - "vr.org", so you can add it to your list.
Also, add to your list of desirable attributes - x) amount of swap space
provided. As an example, if you take http://vpslink.com, while they
provide excellent choices, they do not allow any swap space on their
Virtual Machines, which was a show stopper for me. Also, some services
(for example, http://www.westhost.com which will be the first one in the
list if you use the above query) talks about how many domain, sites
you can host, plus they do not provide other "physical" characteristics
of the VM, meaning it is probably not a "real" VM hosting.
With #5 I think you will have hard time finding it out, and the only way
is to actually ask existing users
I feel your pain about comparing incomparable, and finding commonalities
in different product. The project I am working on (meta-for.org) is an
attempt to create a catalog with an ability to search and compare
software by features and functionality, and while it is relatively easy
to populate database with lots of products, finding and documenting
common features among them is a nightmare. But I work hard on it, and
decided to go all the way in spite of difficulties. Btw, any
inputs/suggestions/comments would be much appreciated.
Good luck and let me know if I can be of any further help.
D
--
http://www.meta-for.org - Open Source software catalog
Clark Sims wrote:
> Could you list the services you researched, and their prices. I just did a google on "virtual hosting Linux service" it has almost too much information.
>
> I am have been wanting to make a web page, with many different virtual hosting companies listed and compared.
>
> This is a challenging project because there are many subtle differences. For example, Amazon allows you to rent an arbitrarily large number of servers at $.10 / hour. This is could be ideal for some of my clients, who due huge parallel numerical calculations, that take thousands (tens of thousands) of hours of CPU on an x86 CPU. Here is an example of things which might be on a table of comparisons:
>
> 1) amount of bandwidth - / bandwidth pricing plan
> 2) amount of hard drive / hard drive pricing plan
> 3) amount of dedicated RAM / virtual machine
> 4) ability to set up new virtual machines for short periods of time to handle spikes in demand
> 5) reliability of Internet access to the co-location
> 6) reliability of storage medium at the co-location facility / does it include automatic parallelization among related co-lo's? automatic backup to some permanent medium?
>
>
> Daniel Son <dsong at meta-for.org> wrote: It is interesting, but it doesn't look like real virtual server. I use
> one of those services and did some research on it. The prices are from
> $20/month and up. And with real virtual hosting providers they do not
> say which services are included but rather bandwidth and "hardware"
> specs and choice of OSes. Then you get full root access and you can do
> what you want.
>
> D
>
> --
> http://www.meta-for.org - Open Source software catalog
>
>
>
> Chris Knadle wrote:
>
>> On Thursday 25 October 2007, Clark Sims wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I think this is an interesting email, and an interesting site.
>>> I think it illustrates how vitalization is going to be a driving force in
>>> server pricing. Is this a full Linux account with root access, and your own
>>> virtual machine?
>>>
>>>
>> "Full Unix shell" access is included. They discuss it helping with
>> webmastering, although "root" isn't specifically mentioned. That's a key
>> question to ask.
>>
>> Note that the base price doesn't include a unique IP, which is an
>> additional $4/mo. Also take note of the $50 one-time setup fee unless you
>> pay for 12 months in advance. They don't mention how much dedicated RAM each
>> VPS gets; that's important to know, since responsiveness goes way down when
>> programs go to swap.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Two think I don't understand about vitalization are:
>>> 1) when you run top from a virtual machine, does it access the real
>>> machine? does it represent a fraction of what the virtual machine is using
>>>
>>>
>> On the VPS I'm currently been working on [not on DreamHost], top shows the
>> whole machine, not the local VPS. I had to make a script that adds up the
>> output of 'pmap' on individual PIDs to try to get an idea of local VPS RAM
>> usage.
>>
>>
>>
>>> ? 2) what does nice do when you run it from inside a virtual machine?
>>>
>>>
>> Works as normal; prioritizes processes within the VPS.
>>
>>
>>
>>> I also didn't quite understand if this allowed putty access, and what
>>> flavor of Linux they are using.
>>>
>>>
>> Says Debian in the "what's included" section. "All DreamHost plans come
>> with SSH", which should answer your putty question.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Can you install your own services, like SVN?
>>>
>>>
>> SVN is specfically included.
>>
>> -- Chris
>>
>>
>>
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