[nylug-talk] Mail servers on dynamic IP addresses soon to be shunned nearly everywhere.

[Gregg Levine]

On 2/3/07, mylar <micros50 at verizon.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 2007-02-03 at 15:23, Ron Guerin wrote:
> > Ah Pook wrote:
> > > On Saturday 03 February 2007 3:09 pm, Ron Guerin wrote:
> > >> The ISPs and mail providers there included AOL, Bell Sympatico,
> > >> Bellsouth, Charter, Earthlink, TW/Roadrunner, Verizon, AT&T, Cox,
> > >> Comcast, Cablevision, France Telecom, Rogers, Telus, MSN/Hotmail,
> > >> Cingular, Sprint, Outblaze, Yahoo, and a bunch more I don't remember
> > >> off hand.
> > >>
> > >> If I were you, I would be sure not to do business with any of them,
> > >
> > > Looking at that list (and having had "service" from at least 14 of
> > > those), it sounds like a pretty good idea actually...  :-)
> >
> > Unfortunately, I have to agree.  While I obviously understand where John
> > Levine (the abuse.net postmaster, among many other distinctions) is
> > coming from with that statement, I find that some on that list are in
> > fact the primary sources of the spam they're trying to stop.  I also see
> > the company known as "the worst-run network on the Internet" on that list.
> >
> > Nevertheless, whether MAAWG is a synonym for a bunch of companies that
> > need to go out of business or not, if they follow through, the end of
> > the "residential class service" mail server is at hand.
>
> I thought that most of those companies (except for Yahoo) stopped
> accepting mail from mail servers on dynamic ip addy's a long time ago.
> For a\t least the past year or so I haven't been able to send mail to
> anyone on "A O Hell" via a local mail server running on a dynamic ip.
> Even Yahoo has been strange. The other night my ISP's server was down so
> I sent mail to a friend on Yahoo via my server on a dynamic ip and it
> went through fine. Other times no go... Strange but maybe not so.
>
> mylar
>
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Hello!
We Levines have a strange set of values. One of them is to not suffer
fools gladly. Unfortunately this means what you've just reported Ron.

Now my ISP is AT&T and I've been informed, but not ordered, to not run
a mailserver as part of my Linux arrangement. That's okay from what
I've been told setting up something using Sendmail to actually send
anything outside the local domain can be a royal pain in the R&R area.
However something all of you should know, AOL and TWC are managed by
individuals who're on that same list that Wile E Coyote insists that
normally B. Bunny should be on.

An example, TWC-NY refuses to believe that their site contains either
spammers or trojan contaminated machines, that is Zombies, so they
refuse to accept mail from outside services about it. Also their Abuse
desk is a part time entity, unlike the one at AT&T for example. AOL on
the otherhand has a serious internal problem that's why they are
practically giving away their services.

Now as to John's assertion, and your list Ron, guess what? I agree. If
anyone is indeed doing that and did have a dynamic address as of five
minutes ago, then good riddance to them.

I have asked my ISP about a static address something like four times a
month every six months. They insist it's not possible then. I ask
when, and they suggest calling back. I believe the current call center
that they are using is lost in space someplace.

If anyone on this list disagrees with my position, please feel free to
e-mail me directly, I'd rather not clog the list with insults and
revolting statements.

-- 
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature was once found posting rude
 messages in English in the Moscow subway."