[nylug-talk] Why does "enterprise" imply "Java"?

[Felix Shnir]

On 7/7/06, Ajai Khattri <ajai at bitblit.net> wrote:
>
> mike at jurney.org wrote:
> > The context of the discussion is the enterprisey nature of J2EE, and
> this
> > is a major facet of it.  The J2EE set of APIs is defined, maintained,
> > revised, and distributed by Sun.  In the large business world, this fact
> > (not that it's Sun, necessarily, but that it happens this way at all)
> > carries with it enormous credibility.  The point I'm trying to make is
> > that, at least partly, it's the fact that you don't have to figure out
> how
> > to put which projects together to get a certain kind of functionality
> > which makes J2EE enterprisey.  I'm not trying to be snippy, I chose the
> > name "junktrunk" to emphasize this point.
>
>
> In other words "benevolent commercial entity overseeing Java" wins out
> over the open-source model (where noone is "in charge" to dictate how
> something should be pieced together and/or evolve"). Similar for Linux
> (where RedHat is considered "enterprisey"). But I also think this is
> partly perception/marketing - you only have to look at Google (mostly
> open-source based and they dont use any "enterprise" linux either) to
> see someone doing very well commercially.


Not just "benevolent entity".  Java's API are built by a process called
JSR.  This is the open field that Sun leverages to put in relevant
frameworks into either the core language, EE or ME suite.  Sun makes sure
that only relevant crap gets in there by having a panel of very smart people
and very smart companies sitting there selecting things that need to be
there.

Notice, they select stuff and solidify the API only, not the actual
implementations.  Actual work is then done both ways, commercially, or open
sourced...  Such is the case with EVERY API that Sun released thorugh JSR
for Java...  Even with Sun not wanting to release the JVM implementation
specs, there are litterally dozens of projects trying to do just that...
More of them more successfully then others: IBM, JRockit, Apaches'
Harmony...

I doubt linux can be compared in language vs OS battle.  They are just too
different. And, by the way, Google is 90% java shop...

Felix.



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