[nylug-talk] Why does "enterprise" imply "Java"?

[Dr Eric Edward Moore]

"Peter C. Norton" <spacey-nylug at lenin.net> writes:

> On Thu, Jul 06, 2006 at 06:17:15PM -0400, Eric Moore wrote:
>> Well, umm...  If I reword it a little:
>
> The re-wording is good.
>
>> "the ability to model a problem in terms of the subject domain, and
>> then without having to go through the disorienting process of
>> translating each technical requirement of that need (of which there
>> could be many) solve that problem in a way that makes the whole thing
>> act the way the user expects it to".
>> 
>> Isn't...  that what all of programming is about?  And what does it
>> have to do with "scaling".  What are the different "scales" involved?
>> What's changing size?  Certainly.... what does it have to do with
>> "enterprise" computation as opposed to just plain old computation?
>
> It's not what all of programming is about in practice. Many programs
> are about bending a person to work around many discontinuities in a
> program because the design gets beaten up, chewed up, and spit out by
> unexpected technical requirements (limitations, problems, undocumented
> special warts, etc.).
>  
> A lot of better programming is doing what you've paraphrased, but
> enterprise frameworks makes doing this more... likely? It's still not
> too applicable with enterprise "products".

Ok, but...  any programming tool is *supposed* to make programming
more like the "good" kind.  I mean, heck, if you want to spend all
your time doing technical crap...  program in raw machine code.  We
have languages, and libraries precisely to make programming less about
technical details, and more about cleanly expressing the problem...

> -Peter

-- 
Eric E. Moore