[nylug-talk] Ubuntu

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Even the arguments are educational<g>.

The only way to make this better would be to make a claymation fight out
of it <g>.


On Fri, 2006-06-30 at 15:11 -0400, mike at jurney.org wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Jun 2006, sixtyfourbeets wrote:
> 
> > I said root user account, I know the root user itself is still on the
> > machine.
> 
> I have no idea what distinction you're making.  Honestly, I still havn't
> figured out what you're angry about.  Ubuntu not setting a root password
> at install time? Having to use sudo? The existence, finally, of a linux
> that's easy to use?
> 
> > Anyone who has ever used a Linux box and an MS box for more than a week
> > consistently will be able to tell you that the security models between
> > the two OS's are different.
> 
> This was almost certainly true in 1996.  Not so much in 2006.
> 
> > Will they be able to explain in any great detail the difference? No they
> > will not, but they will be aware of the differences.
> 
> If the user experience is "Log in.  Use firefox.  Use gmail.  Log out.",
> which is a fairly typical user experience, then they probably won't be
> aware of any differences.
> 
> > With Ubuntu that just doesnt happen and the only thing the user is aware
> > of is the GUI looking different.
> 
> So?  Why should a typical user even care?  More to the original point, why
> should a box being used like this have a root password when sudo exists
> and can be invoked in a GUI dialog?
>